tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post5652685499519942963..comments2023-12-20T04:18:41.617-06:00Comments on The Hunting of the Snark: On The Use Of ClichesSusan of Texashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00076915322771385454noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-38073722650194625852012-06-01T02:58:46.724-05:002012-06-01T02:58:46.724-05:00You rock, Susan!You rock, Susan!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15661450851118802963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-46261285139350500412012-05-17T08:11:18.977-05:002012-05-17T08:11:18.977-05:00He's not even one of Popper's penguins.He's not even one of Popper's penguins.Susan of Texashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00076915322771385454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-69281985574759432892012-05-15T22:02:41.433-05:002012-05-15T22:02:41.433-05:00Liberals think that their side of history is the r...<i>Liberals think that their side of history is the right and therefore the only side of history, unlike conservatives.</i><br /><br />I know Popper's critique of moral historicism. I read Popper's critique of moral historicism. Goldberg, sir, is no Karl Popper.herr doktor bimlernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-83191432684070537902012-05-15T11:44:04.114-05:002012-05-15T11:44:04.114-05:00Shorter, More Honest Jonah: The left should not as...Shorter, More Honest Jonah: The left should not assume that its triumphs securing power and equality for all citizens will last forever, because reactionaries, plutocrats, and hired hacks like me will always be ready to reverse those gains.Mr.Wonderfulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-34008568752169454152012-05-15T11:37:08.134-05:002012-05-15T11:37:08.134-05:00'And so I sort of concentrated on—what’s his n...'And so I sort of concentrated on—what’s his name—Robert Paxton, who was sort of—he himself considers himself the dean of living American scholars of fascism...'<br /><br />Classic Goldberg. Pretends to not remember a prominent scholar's name, then a snide jab about how Paxton "considers himself the dean", etc. Then bragging about how easy it was to rebut Paxton's objections. I don't really think he actually believes any of this, which is why he tries so hard. Deep down he knows he's a fraud.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-38922350545755245832012-05-15T08:01:00.347-05:002012-05-15T08:01:00.347-05:00Hey Susan, I know you miss the McArdle beat, but l...Hey Susan, I know you miss the McArdle beat, but let's get on the Suderman beat.<br /><br />http://reason.com/blog/2012/05/14/why-jpmorgan-chases-2-billion-blown-deal?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reason%2FHitandRun+%28Reason+Online+-+Hit+%26+Run+Blog%29<br /><br />Found via:<br />http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/05/what-went-wrong-at-jp-morgan.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-55438928767756079952012-05-15T01:43:03.218-05:002012-05-15T01:43:03.218-05:00I can make shit up for money, I'm not proud. ...I can make shit up for money, I'm not proud. Where's the link, Susan, Imma submit my resume.zombie rotten mcdonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10601960953323752278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-12495611829328963222012-05-14T17:41:59.880-05:002012-05-14T17:41:59.880-05:00Jonah Goldberg is patently full of shit and everyt...Jonah Goldberg is patently full of shit and everything he writes proves this again and again. This <i>liberals always think they're right but they're wrong, whereas we conservatives (viz. me, Jonah) are the ones who are right but we would never stoop to think so</i> is its own tyrannical cliche. Take the case in point. If claiming that you're on the right side of history and your opponents are on the wrong side is a lying liberal trait then someone better tell Victor Davis Hanson, among a zillion other conservatives. When it came to the Iraq war, Vic et al couldn't stop accusing anyone who didn't eagerly jump on the clusterfuck wagon as being on the wrong side of history. <a href="https://www.google.com/search?as_q=Iraq+Hanson&as_epq=wrong+side+of+history&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=100&btnG=Google+Search&lr=lang_en&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=" rel="nofollow">To wit.</a>R. Porrofattonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-1614908280949536482012-05-14T14:17:00.049-05:002012-05-14T14:17:00.049-05:00Speaking of McArdle, she is looking for a research...Speaking of McArdle, she is looking for a researcher. Goldberg had three researchers for Cliches; I guess this means McArdle is three times smarter.<br /><br />I would submit my resume but I have never been paid by the Koches and therefore am not qualified.Susan of Texashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00076915322771385454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-9992829384410735552012-05-14T00:31:29.271-05:002012-05-14T00:31:29.271-05:00Liberals think they're on the right side of hi...Liberals think they're on the right side of history because analysis of thousands of years of social processes has yielded conclusions about economic and moral systems which generally indicate the liberal position will be borne out in the long run.<br /><br />Conservatives think they're on the right side of history because well look I can't respond in-depth because I'm operating on a close wife and child and my deadlines are sick but basically because I can't see how I'm on the wrong side of history.Both Sides Do Ithttp://lookatthisfuckingcentrist.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-8121016808566733462012-05-14T00:10:34.376-05:002012-05-14T00:10:34.376-05:00I think Doughy Pantload will be happier than most ...I think Doughy Pantload will be happier than most when McMegan gets off book leave.<br /><br />Selah<br />CAGaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-76866061326742991622012-05-13T21:39:10.532-05:002012-05-13T21:39:10.532-05:00It's because I'm a liberal and they never ...It's because I'm a liberal and they never think anything through.Susan of Texashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00076915322771385454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-71176448355805696052012-05-13T21:00:02.061-05:002012-05-13T21:00:02.061-05:00Wow, Susan, how can you be so filled with cliches?...Wow, Susan, how can you be so filled with cliches?zombie rotten mcdonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10601960953323752278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-42807236592189411812012-05-13T20:07:45.620-05:002012-05-13T20:07:45.620-05:00We say equal rights for gays is inevitable because...We say equal rights for gays is inevitable because we believe civil rights belong to everyone; the right says we are fascists because they want to withold those rights and we won't let them. <br /><br />"It is a way of saying to your opponents: you should give up not because your arguments are wrong but because you will eventually lose anyway. It is an attempt to demoralize your opponents not engage them."<br /><br />Goldberg thinks that since conservatives are always right, the left is just being dishonest when they say they are right. He says that the left tries to browbeat the right, confuse their sense of morality. The right knows that followers follow, and if their mores are rejected they will lose authority when everyone follows the liberal mores. They see themselves from a postion of weakness, and that is frightening.<br /><br />Since followers are able to block out anything they don't want to see, such as hypocritical behavior, factual error and massive projection, they become irate that the left doesn't agree with their ironclad arguments. But they don't actually have any arguments, they just have fear of the other and sexual squeamishness. So they need some schlub like Goldberg to give them a "winning" argument--and pay him a million to do so, which reinforces his belief that he is right and the left is wrong. The left doesn't get million dollar book contracts. <br /><br />Which feeds into his anger when liberals insist they are right, prove they are right, and laugh at him for being wrong. His next book will probably be how the left thinks they're so funny when really the right is funny and the left is just mean. Because their minds are built that way.<br /><br />It's really interesting. Goldberg hates to be mocked so he goes and says something stupid and is mocked. He's gready for praise and revels in it. So he has been denied praise; he has felt stupid. And it makes him feel weak, like a child. Goldberg's past is always part of his present. <br /><br />Goldberg resents these feelings but it's not like he can blame his mother. We know Lucianne uses and manipulates people, and has no empathy or conscience. (She must have been a nightmare to a kid.) So he blames liberals instead. <br /><br />Goldberg is now calling liberals liars constantly on tv and radio. It will become common belief that the liberals' facts are wrong and the conservatives' facts are right. We need to point out all his factual errors just as often, to undercut his authority.Susan of Texashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00076915322771385454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-28313398570490515782012-05-13T18:45:58.178-05:002012-05-13T18:45:58.178-05:00Demoralizing your opponents is not engaging them? ...Demoralizing your opponents is not engaging them? It sounds like <i>successful</i> engagement! Ah, this is the old conservative "you're not supposed to win, nor to fight back" argument. <br /><br />What, exactly, is the reality-based argument against gay marriage, anyway? The only <i>honest</i> arguments are "it makes me uncomfortable," "I feel threatened that my gay child might not feel so ashamed he remains an unhappy closet case forever" and "the scripture I read highly selectively to reinforce my own prejudices condemns it." None are compelling. <br /><br />Anyway, let's consider the whole unfair argument that gay marriage (which is already a reality in some places without the world ending) will become a wide-spread reality. That's not "demoralizing" to <i>non-conservatives</i>. And it happens to be true. If conservatives choose to be "demoralized" by it, that's their choice, just as it was when they supported slavery, and opposed women's suffrage, the Civil Rights Act and labor laws, or were otherwise on "the wrong side of history." Appealing to a sense of equality and fairness may be demoralizing to Jonah, but back in the 60s it was called appealing to the better angels of our nature. It's not surprising that the authoritarian and Randroid crowds would consider that a dirty trick.Batocchiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02193752396025012825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-40541544812755026102012-05-13T18:40:05.393-05:002012-05-13T18:40:05.393-05:00What, legalized slavery is poised to make a comeba...What, legalized slavery is poised to make a comeback in the United States? Guy's a regular Toynbee, I tell you.kthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12807643816565849458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-87469202403305647632012-05-13T15:39:03.371-05:002012-05-13T15:39:03.371-05:00Liberals think that their side of history is the r...<i>Liberals think that their side of history is the right and therefore the only side of history, unlike conservatives.</i><br /><br />The Federalist Society consists of right-wing lawyers and judges lying about history in order to further their plutocratic masters' agenda.<br />~ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©https://www.blogger.com/profile/06252371815131259831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-52872897378600112562012-05-13T13:34:12.597-05:002012-05-13T13:34:12.597-05:00Anyway, we may yet come to a point where gay marri...<i>Anyway, we may yet come to a point where gay marriage is an unremarkable institution in everyday life in the United States, but if we do it won’t be because it will be inevitable.</i><br /><br />Of course it's not because it was inevitable. It's because people worked hard and made it happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com