tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post7450964873821906495..comments2023-12-20T04:18:41.617-06:00Comments on The Hunting of the Snark: Pity The Poor JonahSusan of Texashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00076915322771385454noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-29318469166197881762012-05-09T13:00:57.460-05:002012-05-09T13:00:57.460-05:00Man Jonah is the gift that just keeps on giving
h...Man Jonah is the gift that just keeps on giving<br /><br />http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/09/11608553-conservative-author-jonah-goldberg-drops-claim-of-two-pulitzer-nominations<br /><br />He tried to claim that <i>submissions</i> to the Pulitzer Prize committee, of which there are thousands every year, counted as <i>nominations</i> for those prizes. <br /><br /><i>It was put on the jacket cover for his cliche book</i>.<br /><br />If he didn't exist, we would have to invent him for the lulz. And I hate that word.Bennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-91866851079482977592012-05-08T15:55:32.424-05:002012-05-08T15:55:32.424-05:00Well, there's an important difference between ...Well, there's an important difference between an argument that resorts to ideology one that resorts to cliches. A cliche is an expression that has been used so often that the meaning becomes readily understood without needing to read and interpret the actual phrasing anymore. An ideology, of course, is a whole big group of those expressions.Keifushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00287358319899471490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-73957445214270001552012-05-07T23:08:34.539-05:002012-05-07T23:08:34.539-05:00They were just doing what was best for America. Wo...<i>They were just doing what was best for America. Wouldn't that be a great country if all of you Americans were just like that? You followed orders, you marched in step and you followed my agenda. That is one of the sort of central cliches I talk about in the book, by the way. It's the moral equivalent of [war] --</i><br /><br />This may be a bridge too far for our Jonah. You don't have to be a liberal, or a genius, to know that what Obama meant was, not "you should all follow my plan," but, rather, "co-operation and teamwork, set apart from ideology, can bring great results." <br /><br />A schoolchild can understand this. In his "interpretation," Jonah joins the ranks of the true idiots, cranks, and third-rate ideologues who either can't, or who think it's helping the cause to pretend they can't. In either case it's an embarrassment.Mr.Wonderfulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-24978804779930561962012-05-07T22:01:01.628-05:002012-05-07T22:01:01.628-05:00I started to notice that the [use of cliches]
&qu...<i>I started to notice that the [use of cliches]</i><br /><br />"Liberals are X bad/crazy thing" being wholly original.<br /><br />It's amusing that the argument here involves Jonah insisting that simply being ideological is not bad: gotta make sure bullshit-slinging in itself is not frowned upon. Instead, liberals are <i>lying</i> about those things that could well be big lies for all Jonah cares. The fiends! Give me an <i>honest</i> liar.Substance McGravitashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04118764163822188800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-58357814201521912892012-05-07T17:16:11.634-05:002012-05-07T17:16:11.634-05:00You must admit Whatever Works is a great name for ...You must admit <i>Whatever Works</i> is a great name for a Chick-flick movie. But it just didn't "work" with Arnold.Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03176801494652946278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-4476922892144990152012-05-07T15:07:24.577-05:002012-05-07T15:07:24.577-05:00To be fair to Jonah, Whatever Works was a terrible...To be fair to Jonah, <em>Whatever Works</em> was a terrible movie. I think I liked <em>Sour Grapes</em> more, and I never thought I would be able to say that about anything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-9680898548061017142012-05-07T14:15:02.760-05:002012-05-07T14:15:02.760-05:00Oh, those wild-eyed bigoted Liberals, all the time...Oh, those wild-eyed bigoted Liberals, all the time stupidly basing their actions on "what works"!<br /><br />Basing your beliefs & actions on <i>What Works</i> is insanely ideological!Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03176801494652946278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-29324993318653239622012-05-07T12:36:47.742-05:002012-05-07T12:36:47.742-05:00What an embarrassment.
Thanks, Tribune Company.
~...What an embarrassment.<br /><br />Thanks, Tribune Company.<br />~ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©https://www.blogger.com/profile/06252371815131259831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-16116845037215303882012-05-07T12:12:01.124-05:002012-05-07T12:12:01.124-05:00I don't think I have ever, in my life, heard s...I don't think I have ever, in my life, heard somebody reject an argument solely on the grounds that it was ideological.<br /><br />Ideological and stupid, sure, but not just ideological. The important part is the "stupid", which is where Jonah comes in.Lurking Canadiannoreply@blogger.com