tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post8608078542727341429..comments2023-12-20T04:18:41.617-06:00Comments on The Hunting of the Snark: Cleanliness Is Next To GodlinessSusan of Texashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00076915322771385454noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-75937693798487033672009-07-17T11:18:42.830-05:002009-07-17T11:18:42.830-05:00This is why religion is so handy--it gives some pe...This is why religion is so handy--it gives some people an excuse for behavior that ordinarily would not be tolerated. Dreher is afraid of sex and/or disgusted by the human body. He "borrows" authority from religion because otherwise he has no authority to force the world to go along with his crazy attempts to compensate for his fears.Susan of Texashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00076915322771385454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-55981607323712834672009-07-16T16:42:55.783-05:002009-07-16T16:42:55.783-05:00What's cute (read: depressing) is how Rod prob...What's cute (read: depressing) is how Rod probably thinks he's a conservative and a devout religious believer whose antipathy toward sex, pleasure, freedom, etc. proceed from his "beliefs."<br /><br />I'd pay good money--well, adequate money--to be there if/when it dawns on him that he's got it exactly backward. I.e., he and those like him begin with sex-based repression, fear, and anxiety, and contain it by resorting to "faith."<br /><br />The fact that the biggest moralists are inevitably the biggest closet sensualists is beyond cliche. <br /><br />"Use" porn, indeed.Mr. Wonderfulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-72069239664399459182009-07-15T21:11:35.120-05:002009-07-15T21:11:35.120-05:00I also thought it was interesting that Dreher refe...I also thought it was interesting that Dreher referred to "using" porn as well--mostly because it's apparently mostly said in prison. As in, "hey, can I use your May 2004 issue of Juggs?," which is apparently quite distinct in meaning from "hey, can I look at your May 2004 issue of Juggs?"CaptBackslapnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-47271581542273514252009-07-15T14:45:38.763-05:002009-07-15T14:45:38.763-05:00Yeah, thanks to the internet we're as late rom...Yeah, thanks to the internet we're as late roman as pompeii. Or something. <br /><br />This is a great post, Susan. I knew when I saw Roy's post that you must be all over this,somehow. Rod is a deeply disturbed individual. I particularly dislike the unintentional perversity of his obsession with "planting seeds" in his children to combat their lusty thoughts about seed planting.<br /><br />I also like the point you make about Rod's assumption that we all know exactly what is wrong with people "using" porn. Historically porn is what men have used when they *couldn't get actual women.* And they couldn't get actual women to have sex with them because of restrictive religious ideas about sexuality and restrictive social realities like the high cost of pregnancy prior to birth control. So, why do people "need" porn now? Because its pleasurable to think about sex even if you aren't having it at the moment. Rod is *anti pleasure* because he's anti body and anti sex. He's not anti porn because its actually, you know, bad or produces bad stuff. We had mass murderers before we had porn. Hell, we have Cheney and as far as I know he wasn't looking at porn before he shot his friend in the face. Rod is just anti pleasure, and he gets his creepy kicks from imagining throttling the pleasure princple in his children. How scary is that?<br /><br />aimaiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-1213437864723980632009-07-15T12:00:26.710-05:002009-07-15T12:00:26.710-05:00What's with the conservative obsession with se...What's with the conservative obsession with sex, anyway? It's not even their own tastes and habits, but *everybody elses*. It's freaking WEIRD. I'm sure it has something to do with their need to control, but why are they always harping on how, where, why and with whom everybody else in the world has it off with?clever pseudonymnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-53945536798290078182009-07-15T11:16:44.803-05:002009-07-15T11:16:44.803-05:00All I ask is that Dreher and Douthat to keep their...All I ask is that Dreher and Douthat to keep their sick obsessions to themselves and leave the rest of us out of their fantasies. It's a strange irony that avoiding sin seems to mean thinking about sinning constantly.Susan of Texashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00076915322771385454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-18652925552602045072009-07-15T11:01:56.279-05:002009-07-15T11:01:56.279-05:00Althouse just whores for attention, so that makes ...Althouse just whores for attention, so that makes her less demented but more pathetic. <br /><br />Dreher and Douthat are both repulsed by sex, but Douthat hides it better, which I guess puts him on top. So to speak.Susan of Texashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00076915322771385454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2222630007427380394.post-74205544655162589032009-07-15T10:57:46.990-05:002009-07-15T10:57:46.990-05:00I can't decide who has the most demented thoug...I can't decide who has the most demented thoughts about sex and sexuality - Dreher, Douthat or Althouse.Dillonnoreply@blogger.com