Recently, I’ve been seeing a lot about fast-food workers and public assistance, after a study from the University of California at Berkeley Labor Center came out arguing that these workers get billions in public benefits. Several of my readers have hinted that I, as a welfare-hating libertarian type, should be outraged at all this free-riding.
I don’t think this argument works for a bunch of reasons. We’re about to see a lot more fast-food workers on public benefits, because of the Affordable Care Act. (Assuming it doesn’t implode, of course.) Do companies really have a moral obligation to raise wages every time the public passes a new entitlement? That doesn’t seem as if it can possibly be right. Does Obamacare give you a moral obligation to pay your lawn guy more? Do you think it might be hard to pass new public programs if it did?Our Megan is incensed! True, the fast food industry pays so little that its workers must go on public assistance. Unfortunately they now have the ability to buy health insurance with subsidies, the moochers. But just because some people get help buying health insurance doesn't mean that corporations should have to pay them a living wage and here I am, with my six-figure salary and full bennies, to tell you why.
If the public decides to give people a new benefit, then the public should be responsible for paying it. That is how it should be -- a system where one party gets to order the dinner, but send the bill to someone else who's not even at the table, is a bad system. But it’s also what’s best for the poor. Jason Furman, now President Barack Obama's top economic adviser, explained this very lucidly, seven years ago:Do you hear that, low-wage workers? Your bountiful pay of $20,000 a year ($384 a week!) is so generous that Wal-Mart could easily cut it to $15,000 a year if you complain about their second-hand subsidies. Sure, you can only live "half decently," but what else do
Does anyone really think that food stamps, Medicaid, and housing vouchers allow Wal-Mart to line its pockets by paying its workers less? Why don't you tell me which of the following two thought experiments make the most sense to you: · Wal-Mart is a nice, caring company. It wants its workers to have enough money to afford food, rent, and medical care, so it pays them $20,000 annually. Now along comes the government to give the workers $5,000 in food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid, so now Wal-Mart only needs to chip in $15,000 to ensure its workers can live half decently.
Because jobs for people with no other options are plentiful and we have so few poor people and so many well-paying jobs.· Wal-Mart is an amoral company that wants to pay its workers as little as it possibly can while still attracting, retaining, and motivating enough workers to operate the business and make a profit. If the government makes food stamps and housing vouchers available, workers will take more time to find a high-paying job and greater leverage to press for higher wages. Wal-Mart will need to pay higher wages to attract the smaller pool of applicants and motivate them more now that the threat of firing someone carries somewhat less weight. (Economics aficionados should note that the EITC, which is only available to people who work, is a somewhat different story.)
No, I don't. McArdle does, however. More Furman:So, hopefully you agree with me that Wal-Mart's workers are getting the direct benefits of these public programs and indirectly are probably getting higher wages as well.
That's rich. That should be embroidered on a pillow. The people who vacuumed up 95% of the post-crash income gains and have almost all the money are your benefactors because they will now pay 39.6% on taxable income over $400,000.But there's more good news for you: Most of the tab is being picked up by the wealthy, since the top 1 percent of Americans pay 39 percent of federal income taxes.
Wal-Mart is the biggest employer in the US. To compare it to the Post is deeply dishonest. The Waltons have more wealth than the bottom 30% of Americans.Let's compare this to imposing a living wage. For the sake of argument, ignore efficiency and the impact on employment (not a bad assumption at Kennedy's proposed $7.25 an hour, but to benefit any Wal-Mart workers you would need to support $10 or $15 an hour, at which point it would be a terrible assumption). Where do you think this living wage would come from? It's too late to get the money from the Walton fortune, which in any event would only be enough to raise wages by $1 an hour (annualized). We could eliminate Lee Scott's salary and use the money to pay an extra 1 cent per hour to Wal-Mart's employees. You would have no way to legislate that Wal-Mart takes this money out of its profits, even if you thought these profits were sufficient. (And it's far from obvious that they are: Wal-Mart's profits per employee are lower than the economy-wide average. For example, Slate's owner, the Washington Post Company, makes $19,000 from each employee. Wal-Mart only makes $6,000 from each employee.)
You don't want to have to pay 6 cents more for milk so a single mother can buy her kids shoes, do you?You shouldn't have any problem believing that what you think is an immoral corporation will pass most of the costs on to its consumers. Now, you might say it's only a 2 percent increase in prices. Given Wal-Mart's $250 billion in annual sales, this works out to $5 billion of "your money" (and more if you add more companies to your list). And "your money" is a more apt term in this case because the top 1 percent of Americans is not picking up 39 percent of this tab.
The next paragraphs are McArdle in all her living glory. Sure, studies show that paying someone enough for them to survive doesn't increase unemployment, but I happen to have some (imaginary/hypothetical/wingnut-funded) studies right here that say the exact opposite!
Moreover, the living wage risks reducing employment, particularly among the least experienced and productive workers. The Earned Income Tax Credit and other similar benefits don’t. Yes, I’m familiar with research showing that the disemployment effects are small, or even nothing. Other studies suggest they’re larger. And even the studies that show no impact are very short-term -- they have to be, because in long-term studies, other factors can swamp the effect of wage changes. So they don’t capture long-term decisions, like whether to open a new fast-food outlet, or to invest in equipment that lets you get by with fewer workers.
I’m a big fan of the EITC because it helps people who are willing to work, but whose work isn’t quite productive enough to support them in the minimum style that we think decent for a modern-day American. More of our safety net should be structured toward that goal. The implication of this Berkeley study that's making waves is that we should have a system more like the old European safety nets: Set a very high wage, so that no one in work needs benefits -- then provide lots of benefits to all the people who can’t get work at the higher wages. I think that’s a fundamental mistake, and so do a lot of European governments, who have been trying to reform those systems with varying degrees of success.And that is why working people should be forced to depend on charity for survival. A handful of the richest people in the world might have to make a smaller profit or lower wages even further.
As entertaining as this crazy-lady rant is, it needs visuals. McArdle should have P. Suderman, boy ratf*cker, make a Tea Party video in support of Wal-Mart. He can get his buddies at Reason to play the part of Wal-Mart workers who are furious at this attack on Free Market Capitalism and wave around angry signs in support of their ersatz employers.
ADDED: See more about the issue at Naked Capitalism.
This is a lot like her post last summer when she was defending McDonalds idiotic budget calculator - http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-18/mcdonald-s-jobs-are-drive-thru-not-dead-end.html
I got into it with her in the comments:
• It's an empirical question - and the research is pretty clear that the minimum wage can be raised without job loss:
If that's unpossible in your theory, there may be a hole in your theory.
It isn't "pretty clear"; it's decidedly mixed, with the majority of economists ending up concluding that demand curves probably do slope downward. Of course, this depends on the margin; no one thinks that a minimum wage increase of a penny makes much difference, and pretty much everyone thinks you can't raise it to $100 an hour.
I had no idea what she was getting at, but a couple more responses made it clear that Megan & her minions couldn't conceive of a non-linear response.
I think it means that you are right only if we stay with the parameters of reality. Over in Fantasyland, where she lives, anything goes!
Moreover, the living wage risks reducing employment
I can hardly wait for McArdle's spirited opposition to the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
Land Rush of 1889:
Miss Megan McArdle: "Stop! This is a travesty! The government should be selling the land, not letting people homestead it!
And I want to go first!"
McArdle was always a 3rd stringer, but in the last year she's become irrelevant.
40 years of top down class warfare has left no remotely ratiional economic basis for pulling in the victims, so, of course, there's been a turn to outright race & class based fearmongering & tribalism.
What turned my stomach this year was the glorification of George Zimmerman. People I had thought at least rational were stripped to pure, terrified, followers.
The problem for Megan is that her entire schtick is based on treating people as interchangable economic units. With the pretense of opportunity dropped, her core ridiculousness is too open for her to be a useful tool for anyone.
That's true, but I am hoping that her unique position as (basically) an elite tea-bagger will shed light on the evolution of the Republican party. Can billionaires eliminate the middle man (the political class) and go straight to the people to get their laws passed? Is the same thing happening to journalism?
The Amazon model.
The whole thing is incoherent, as usual, but this caught my eye: You would have no way to legislate that Wal-Mart takes this money out of its profits . . . This is pointless. Of course you can't require WM to make less in profit. You can raise the minimum wage, and then WM does the usual business thing of figuring out how much it can raise prices to keep profits at the hoped-for level without losing sales. You know, what every business does all the time when costs go up.
And it really makes no sense at all that food stamps, etc., lead to WM paying a higher wage. Did I even read that right? Public subsidies allow WM to pay wages that would lead to employees fainting from hunger on the job, which presumably they want to avoid just to get the work done.
That would be the very same wealthy who acquired their wealth thru the hard labor of the McD's employees?
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